My answer may be biased...

Mar 03, 2009,21:33 PM
 

But I think Romain's work is of exceptionally high standards.  But let's "break it down" if you will:

RG vs Kari - I think they are of equal standards for overall finish but at this level of finishing, we are really nitpicking aren't we.   The big different between Kari and RG and Kari and Phillipe Dufour, IMHO, is really around the movement design.  Yes, we all agree that the finishing is amazing but I would argue that Romain designed his movement from ground up merging new world design technology with old world finishing.  That makes it very special for me, at least over a well finished ebauche.  No matter how many bridges or plates one replaces, it is still a pre designed movement.  Having said, that, I wouldn't knock Kari back if he found extra movements. smile

RG vs Phillipe - Not sure if this is well known, but in Romain's business plan for his MBA, Phillipe Dufour was a technical advisor to the business.  It was also Phillipe who gave Romain the confidence taht he could actually produce his own watch as his original business plan was very different. Dufour suggested that to truly differentiate, Romain had to take the finishing up to "another level" during the initial stages of movement design and specifically create areas where the finishing can be highligthed.  An example of this was the "hollowed out" bridge and sharp inner corners.  Of course, the level of detail did not go down as far as the bevelling of the teeth.  This attention to detail puts the Simplicity ahead of the Prestige.  Having said that, Romain's business model is one of independence, where by he has the facilities to create his own parts.  This is evident in the way he has full control over the design of the wheels, so while finishing wise, Dufour is much better, there is some trade off on an in-house produced wheel. 

RG vs Roger Smith - I believe this is a difficult match up.  Having seen two in the flesh and met both gentlemen, I must say that this is a hard call to compare as it involves two different styles of watchmaking and movement layouts.  Given this challenge, I will take the easy way out and make superficial comments (sorry Thomas).  Superficially, I found the Romain's movement to be more attractive.  I think the three quarter plate hides too much of the inner workings, a while we all know that all bits are finished to the highest standards, I do like the ability to peer underneath the plate just for that extra reassurance.  I also want to comment on the dial work of Roger's Series 2. It is phenomenal, although there is a well known example on another forum which has an engraving flaw.

The above is, of course, my own humble opinion.  Having met all four watchmakers and seen all four watches in the flesh, I think I made the right choice. Of course, with unlimited funds, I would love to own examples of all four individuals.  However, if I had to choose one, I'd still stick with my Prestige.  It is not a watch for everyone, as some have made negative comments about the dial and the position of the winding crown.  However, for me this is just part of the ownership experience.  I value the uniqueness of the dial and movement as well as the obvious "heart and soul" poured into making the Prestige a reality.  But most of all, I admire the 8@lls that it took for a 30-something year old who is not a watchmaker to launch a superbly finished, in-house designed and manufactured movement into a competitive market.

*Note that I haven't compared RG to Vianney as I have yet to develop an appreciation of his work.  I feel out of my own comfort zone of knowledge to comment in any level of detail.

Gaz


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ASTOUNDING GAUTHIER FINISH A NEW STANDARD ?

 
 By: NJ : February 24th, 2009-11:03
We're all familiar with the exquisite level of movement finish Philippe Dufour is justifiably famous for but have a look at these images and tell me the bar has not been raised....  

Sure, the guy who works for Romain Gauthier does a great job.

 
 By: foversta : February 24th, 2009-13:01
I love the finishings of these watches but the most impressive point, IMHO, is the layout of the caliber. Fr.Xavier...  

Exceptional.

 
 By: Ophiuchus : February 24th, 2009-21:39

Agree, Xavier!

 
 By: LCDW : March 14th, 2009-02:41

Magnificent

 
 By: patrick_y : February 24th, 2009-22:01

Amazing finishing. Please do post more pics if you have any :)

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 24th, 2009-11:25
This is major watch porn for me! I better close my browser now cause my wife is around the corner...don't want her to catch me looking at some porn! Cheers, Anthony

Porn? Odd comment.

 
 By: NJ : February 24th, 2009-11:34
Have a look at his website and by all means bring the wife and children. This message has been edited by RNJH on 2009-02-24 11:35:40

Porn

 
 By: rovermark : February 24th, 2009-12:11

Wow!

 
 By: Allen : February 24th, 2009-12:57

Nothing less than PD's and KV's works.

 
 By: ling5hk : February 24th, 2009-14:46
It is so easy to neglect great work by low profile watchmaker. Regards Ling

Perhaps...

 
 By: NJ : February 24th, 2009-15:39
the best example of that are the incomparable works of Mr. George Daniels who oddly receives very limited mention on this or any other forum.

Too rare

 
 By: aaronm : February 26th, 2009-10:31

Yeap this is serious watch porn

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : February 24th, 2009-14:47

it's dangerous to say anything too definitive based on photos alone

 
 By: ei8htohms : February 24th, 2009-16:48
But it looks like a very sweet piece of work.

Fantastic!

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : February 24th, 2009-17:11

Côtes de Genève

 
 By: DonCorson : February 25th, 2009-03:41

It appears to be really fine work, but not necessarily..

 
 By: Ronald Held : February 25th, 2009-06:19
as good as Dufour or Kari.

Stunning craftmanship.......

 
 By: Topcat30093 : February 27th, 2009-00:00

P0RN - NSFW warning...

 
 By: Gaz : March 3rd, 2009-19:48
Gratuitous balance shot Explicit close up shot of the "click" (hmmm... does that rhyme too close to something else?) For those of you who like curves Is this the "money shot"? Couldn't help myself after the reference to watch p0rn. These are photos when I...  

Beautiful photos!

 
 By: Z3 : March 3rd, 2009-20:27
Such nice details! In your opinion, Gaz, how do you think Roman Gaultier compares with the other independents in terms of finishing?

Late to the party...

 
 By: pplater : March 6th, 2009-16:37
...but here to tell you Gaz (as if you need telling...) that those are sensational pics of your lovely watch. You did well to pick the emerging master early. With such prescient skills do you have any tips for a good vin ordinaire from the '09 vintage??? ... 

Short answer...

 
 By: Gaz : March 9th, 2009-07:33