So interesting/groundbreaking but

May 31, 2010,11:09 AM
 

The size is crazy and the name 'Graaaaaand'  Carrera is a dealkiller. Just my O. I guess a watch brand best known for sport and entry level nice watches should  not use a word like Graaaaand, as if an English aristocrat is the target? It always irked me and seemed out of plac. Name matters! However no one can deny this is groundbreaking and worthy of taking Tag to a new level of .... respect.

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The Alternative Regulator without Hairpring - TAG Heuer Pendulum Concept

 
 By: Kong : May 30th, 2010-22:35
TAG Heuer continues in its quest to rethink out of the box with another 'under the nose reinvention', after substituting the traditional pinion and gear transmission with a belt-driven mechanical transmission (which many thought it could not be achieved w...  

like the watch but..

 
 By: darma : May 31st, 2010-00:23
i don't like the size. 48mm diameter is huge and if it goes into production it would put me off buying such a piece. It is possible the finished product will have a smaller case at all? thanks darren

Thanks for the inputs ....

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:34
Hi Darren Hopefully it was not my small wrist that blow the watch out of proportion. Must get a more macho wrist next round Likewise I felt it would be nicer if it can be kept at 44mm, however, the movement diameter is already at 40mm. Kong

Great report. Thank you. [nt]

 
 By: VMM : May 31st, 2010-01:36
Would love to see this "thing" working properly, and being reliable soon. Vte This message has been edited by VMM on 2010-05-31 01:38:00

I think ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:37
many will have more faith with TAG Heuer after they started delivery of V4 last November, which many doubted would happen. We shall see, what the material scientists/engineers could do in next few years. Kong

Excellent

 
 By: InHavenPro : May 31st, 2010-02:49
report, thank you for such detailed photographs! I like the watch very much but I also think it's too large, it might be a necessity for this movement though.

Same thoughts too...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:45
Hi Amvox Thanks for viewing. It would be challenging to reduce from current 47mm as the movement itself is at 40mm. Kong

I salute the innovative brand like TAG Heuer

 
 By: ling5hk : May 31st, 2010-04:05
Interestingly, the new concept of pendulum works like tourbilion and more meaningful. I hope TH will manufacture this watch with smaller diameter (not more than 42mm) and longer power reserve (at least 40 hours and above). Any constraint faced by TH? Than... 

The constraint ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:50
at the moment, mentioned is the magnets still sensitive to temperature and at the moment may not keep tight rate. Reducing to 42mm, may not be possible as the movement is already at 40mm. Kong

Fascinating technology

 
 By: DSD : May 31st, 2010-06:32
but looks utterly ridiculous at that size. No offense.

So interesting/groundbreaking but

 
 By: Mostel : May 31st, 2010-11:09
The size is crazy and the name 'Graaaaaand' Carrera is a dealkiller. Just my O. I guess a watch brand best known for sport and entry level nice watches should not use a word like Graaaaand, as if an English aristocrat is the target? It always irked me and... 

Have to agree with you ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:29
appropriate naming is important! Kong

Beautiful invention...

 
 By: chaser579 : May 31st, 2010-14:51
Reminds me a bit of the inventiveness and imagination behind the Spring Drive from Seiko and, of course, the co-axial technology escapement from Dr. George Daniels. I think Audemars Piguet has a revolutionary movement also, right? The hairspring and escap... 

An interesting alternative ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:15
I would say. Yes indeed it reminded about the Spring Drive with the tri-synchro regulator but without the electronics which require battery to power. Most companies can conceptualize, develop and manufacture their movements. However, few can manufacture t... 

what if it was magnetized

 
 By: Ogygia : May 31st, 2010-19:00
If i have to demagnetized it.... will the virtual hair spring lost its magnetism? btw great report! thx

I think the present of ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-10:59
magnet will be detrimental to this alternative regulator. Any upset of balance of the magnetic field in any of the four magnets, doubt the balance wheel will oscillate properly. I like your pictures, they are nice! Kong

Thanks...

 
 By: Ogygia : June 6th, 2010-19:18
I think the situation is same as spring drive as well...and i asked the agent from seiko HK before about the effect on magnetism of spring drive. They gave me an uncertain answer, but i still believe it works unless you bring them into a lab or near some ... 

The electromagnetic field may be disturbed...

 
 By: Kong : June 7th, 2010-02:24
Hi Ogygia Based on my understanding (till someone willing to loan one to test ) , even Spring Drive, it should be affected when near to any strong magnet as the electromagnetic field of the 'braking & release' would be interrupted, affecting the constant ... 

no one willing....

 
 By: Ogygia : June 7th, 2010-03:16
lol....I think no watch owner willing try, but a scientist...as you said... I love the seiko spring drive...especially the smooth motion of the second hand. It really tells the flow of time. I believe I will love this TAG when i meet it...since they are s... 

"Better" is not worded ...

 
 By: Kong : June 7th, 2010-03:38
even in TAG Heuer's press materials. It is an 'alternative' without any electronics (like an integrated circuit, IC) so it is different from Spring Drive. Kong PS : Thanks Elvis for the kind words. Actually each time, I go to a new venue, I hope there is ... 

Thanks Kong..Great report

 
 By: cfdfire : June 1st, 2010-13:23
This is a piece i have been keeping tabs on.Awesome and i have to agree with most here..kinda big.Cheers

Wow! The Size seems to be the major ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-11:53
challenge, as most of us felt the same. Thanks for viewing. Kong

Thanks for the report...

 
 By: aaronm : June 1st, 2010-20:35
What does it sound like? A

Same as the typical ...

 
 By: Kong : June 6th, 2010-10:54
escapement as the escape-wheel and pallets are still being used. The environment was not quiet enough for me to record. Kong

Question about frequency..

 
 By: cbru : June 3rd, 2010-07:01
Very nice project!!! But i realy don't know how they adjust/keep the frequency? Isochronism problems? Some one might explain me?