Horological Meandering

Anyone else admire IWC's Pellaton winding system?
May 11 2008,03:54 AM

This message has been edited by SJX on 2008-05-11 08:04:08

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Me too, SJX
May 11 2008,05:00 AM

Here the Movement of the Port 5000, 7 days power reserve...



A nice finish, indeed.

IWC is strangely under rated, and deserves posts like this...
Thanks SJX!

Nicolas

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Very nice Nicolas
May 12 2008,04:42 AM

I'll buy a cal. 5000 one day.

- SJX

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Nice shot. [nt]
May 12 2008,05:58 AM

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So much fun they even made a toy!
May 11 2008,05:04 AM

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Love the Pellaton System!
May 11 2008,06:57 AM

I like this much better than most modern approaches to automatic winding systems. I was a little disappointed to see the latest iteration of  the IWC winding system is less like the Pellaton and more like the equally reliable "magic lever" from Seiko. Both are great systems but I prefer the Pellaton system with  more components. Combining components into one part saves manufacturing cost but presents a more complex fabrication for the bench watchmaker should work be necessary. Much like component stereo systems vs all in one radios. Thankfully IWC will forever restore their old pieces (for a price). I wish more companies would use this system. It may take up some space within the movement but I like it a lot.

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Very interesting
May 11 2008,07:03 AM

"I was a little disappointed to see the latest iteration of  the IWC winding system is less like the Pellaton and more like the equally reliable "magic lever" from Seiko."

Can you elaborate? I am sure forum readers would like to hear more.

- SJX

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I don't have any movement pictures
May 11 2008,09:32 AM

but if you watch this brief video on IWC's site: hickory.ch.richemont.com v
they've got animated movement bits flying around, and you can see that the old style Pelleton, with double ruby rollers directly on an eccecentric on the weight and the pawls made of seperate pieces of metal, at a 90-degree angle to the lever, has been replaced.  The new one uses a secondary gear with the eccentric, and a single piece for the pawls and lever: g
If you look about 3 o'clock you can see the new mechanism in place
the following are renderings of the new system:





-a

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I see, that's the Da Vinci chronograph movement
May 12 2008,06:32 AM

It does indeed resemble Seiko's "Magic Lever"; I never looked at the Da Vinci chronogaph closely, it's not my cup of tea. The calibres 5000 and 8000 still use the traditional Pellaton design fortunately.

- SJX

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I certainly do
May 11 2008,07:58 AM

Nice shots! Thks for sharing

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I guess I kind of like it! [nt]
May 11 2008,18:10 PM

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This message has been edited by bipllc on 2008-05-11 18:18:58

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Interesting BP color
May 14 2008,00:40 AM

In the photo provided by bipllc, the Big Pilot on the right is an interesting color; what is it the case made of? It must be white gold appearing more like yellow/rose in the photo as I believe the only other choices would be stainless steel or platinum. And yes, I just love the Pellaton winding system - so incredibly efficient.

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Big Pilot is in Rose Gold!
May 15 2008,19:52 PM

Torneau Special Edition of 50 in Rose Gold and Black dial.

 

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I love portugaise !!!
May 12 2008,03:38 AM

The pellaton in the portugaise 5000

The pelloton in the portugaise 5001

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Not only it is beautiful to look at
May 12 2008,06:04 AM

It is very effective winding system. I was so amaze that two tiny paws can wind the main spring up so quickly. Half a day on the wrist and the power reserve drives up by 2 days. I'm not the active type when I am wearing my Portuguese, but of course being a dress watch...what do you expect?

I love every tick of my Portuguese!!!!

Mike

PS: Pardon my poor photography skill...

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Portuguese Perpetual Pellaton
May 12 2008,07:07 AM

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Nice shots JX....
May 12 2008,09:20 AM

Actually for the pelleton winding system, what is the difference in perfomance towards the movement? Better winding? Or better shock resisting? Sorry for beginner question

Thanks buddy.

 

Regards

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Some info...
May 12 2008,17:05 PM

From my elementary understanding: The Pellaton winding system, with the two pawls that enable winding in bidirectional winding, offers more efficient winding, i.e. the mainspring is wound faster than on a watch with more conventional gear winding. While the S-shaped bridge, you can see it the second photo from the end, offers improve shock resistant as it is flex and twist.

- SJX

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