Breguet

Has anyone the new 7137BA/11/9V6?
Jul 10 2008,09:06 AM

... If yes, I would like to see some live shots and opinions about it... Seems like it has the perfect Breguet looks... I do not know about the movement... Perhaps some Horology wise person does (Nico, do you hear me? LOL)
Best regards to all of you
Tassos

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A Photo may help...
Jul 11 2008,00:57 AM

As for the movement it is the 502.3 DR1 caliber....
Waiting for your input
Best
Tassos

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Hi Tassos...you are on the ball with the latest info....I actually
Jul 11 2008,01:36 AM

Hi Tassos,

You are on the ball with the latest info....I actually like very much the concept of that watch and was very drawn to the 3137BA which is the simular model with engraved movement and saphire case back.

The main thing that turned me away was the 35.5 mm case size of the 3137...as a 35 mm watch gets lost onm my big wrist....but I see that this 7137BA is now 39 mm......my size exactly.

It seems that the movement..the 502 as in the 3130 and 3137 has been rebadged as a 502 - 3 for the 7137 BA...but as always Breguet give very little info as to case thickness, is this model engraved as the 3137 is etc.

It will be good to get the full info as my next watch will probably be a Moon Phase and I have been seriously considering the IWC Perpetual in Rose Gold.

Thanks for bringing it to my  attention.

Kindest regards,

Jack

PS (confidentially) did you see which team is leading in points and time?

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Yes the size of 7137, is about right...
Jul 11 2008,02:54 AM

...for my wrist also... And since the watch is a descendant from the celebrated pocket watch No 5, now at the Breguet Museum, that was made by Breguet, in 1794, for Count Journiac St. Meard, it is right that the size is at least 39 mm and not 35mm as the precedent 3137... And the price? I read something in the order of 22000 Euros... I can not find photos of the back of the watch...
Tassos

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3137 in 35mm
Jul 11 2008,02:24 AM

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Wow, this back looks..
Jul 11 2008,02:44 AM

...marvelous... but then I know I am the baroque type... let's hope the 7137 has a similar back!!!!
Best regards
Tassos

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Baroque was the word I was searching, Tassos! LOL
Jul 11 2008,04:05 AM

Nicely executed, indeed!

best.

Nicolas

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In two minds…
Jul 11 2008,03:26 AM

Hi Guys,

 

Like you I loved the 3137 (and the 3130 with the solid case back), but was put off by the 35.5mm size. When the 39mm 3137 was announced I thought: wonderful, this could be a moonphase that I would love. However, I prefer the power reserve and the moonphase to be pointing (angled) towards the centre.  This is much more in keeping with the design of A.-L. Breguet’s Watch No. 5 which these are modelled on. Like all things, I guess I will have to wait to see it ‘in the metal’, but the downward facing displays don’t feel quite right to me. The Lange 1 moonphase still remains a favourite.

 

Andrew

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Hi Andrew...The downward..
Jul 11 2008,04:09 AM

The downward facing PR could be OK in that it might reducem confusion when time reading at a glance....I find the hands on my 5207 get mixed up...but there it is down pointing from the 12.00 oclock position.

Just did soem research and it is being described on many sites as a re-cased 3137....but the size is good.

kindest regards

Jack

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Hand confusion, good point
Jul 11 2008,04:24 AM

Thanks Jack,

I hadn't thought about the potential for hand confusion. The larger size may reduce that risk, though.

What does worry me more, however, is if Breguet use the original 3137 movement - I would hate them to employ some sort of spacer, or a smaller display back.

Will have to wait and see.

Andrew

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I agree..
Jul 11 2008,19:46 PM

I also prefer the alignment of the power reserve and moonphase in 3130/7. The increased size of 7137 makes it more desirable, the starburst guilloche pattern on the date dial is also nice. Have to put the two watches side by side.

I am also awaiting a bigger-cased 3330/7.

Regards,

Vince

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I have just done a terrible thing...I have loaded the 7137 as
Jul 11 2008,23:46 PM

I have just done a terrible thing...I have loaded the Breguet 7137 as my wallpaper....that  is bad because all things I desire get put there for a period of assesment before purchase.

In the days before computers I would hang them on my office wall beside my desk.

Anyway Tassos will be to blame for this one....but a couple of things I dont like.:

1. No Deployment Clasp...such a convienant thing and one would expect today that a watch of this value would have one. Also,
2. The winder looks very small....I am spoilt  with the silk smooth winder on the 5817.....tradition is good but not if something better is available and that 5817 winder is so easy and smooth.

But we will keep thinking. The dial looks very stunning and deep in detail.

Kindest rgeards to all

Jack

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This is a very good thing, Jack
Jul 12 2008,00:40 AM

Befopre decinding anything on a watch, this is the thing to do...

Uploading the pics of the watch on your computer, and observing it under all the angles...

I did it for many watches I considered buying, and it's obviously a better solution than biuying it and regretting it after....

Best, my friend.

Nicolas

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Hi Nicolas...Yes I think so...age controls impulse..look at
Jul 12 2008,03:19 AM

Hi Nicolas...

Yes I think so...age controls impulse..look at the things we have bought only to be disapointed.

I am thinking my next watch needs some colour....all my waatches are Gold and white or Gold and silver or gold and black......the IWC Perpetual in rose gold and black is half way there but I am looking further at all kinds of watches and probably a moonphase.

Do you know anything about the Breitling Montbrilliant Olympus which comes in Rose Gold /Black/ White?

kindest regards,

Jack

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All is well, but...
Jul 12 2008,11:44 AM

..can anyone post a photo of the real 7137 back?
Andrew is of course right about the angle of power reserve and moon indicator on the original No 5 and that the 3137 had the same angle to those indicators, but "inspired by" does not mean always "being faithful to"...
I do not like the "re casing" scenario... It does take out the novelty of a new watch... It would be pity, if only the dial is changed ... Also, Jack, are you sure it has not a deployment clasp? maybe one can order one (I did once for the Chronoswiss Opus)... I see that the movement has the number (or almost) of my perpetual (5327).. Can it be the same?
Yes dear Nicolas, I have at last admitted my baroque nature (with a mixture of Victorian flair) with sudden minimalistic urges (e.g. 5817) and I feel not guilty about it!!! LOL
Do you know anything about the movement of 7137???
And Jack, we have the same habits... My perpetual was my wall paper for a year before I finally bought it!!!
And Andrew is right, in his Tradition post... The travel matters much. As the Greek (born in Alexandria) poet Kavafis wrote to one of his poem "it is the travel to Ithaka that matters, not Ithaka itself..."
I find that if anyone had the means to instantly and without sacrifice fulfiled his desires (having his dream watch instantly, for example) would take the 2 thirds of pleasure away...
Waiting any answers and Photos...
Your friend
Tassos

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Hi Tassos...I have spent hours surfing for info and back photos
Jul 13 2008,04:48 AM

Hi Tassos...I have spent hours surfing for info on the 7137and trying to get photos of the back....It is a pity that Breguet put out a new model with such limited info.

Anyway, from the info I have found, I have taken it off my wallpaper for the following reasons;

1. Lack of info by Breguet puts it in a frustrating "might look into this" rather than a "Must have this" catagory. If it is anything like the 5177BA 12...it might be a year or two before it sees daylight...Plus,
2.  I am disapointed in the lack of deployment clasp, (Web info says none)...
3. Disapointed in what seems a little winder for a 39mm watch, not as small as the 3137 winder, but too fidgety for my big fingers, OK some might say it is a wrist watch and does not need a big winder...but obviously if this watch has been re-cased to a larger size to meet a market demand...then it follows that people with larger wrists would have larger fingers ...well ...they do in my family.
4. Disapointed in the dial engraving over the moon indicator window....this looks cheap and unfinished as if compared to most moon displays and looks really half done if compared to the moon clouds on the 3137, of certainly very cheap if compared to the Perpetual...and certainly even the No. 5 which the 7137  is supposedly derived from..it  even had a different angle in the pattern to show some effort.

Having said that we can never judge a watch until we see touch and hold the real metal...but it is loosing me,  as my next purchase is getting closer and the 7137 it seems it just  does not have the "I must wait to see this before I make a decision to buy..."

I will also watch with interest any photos that might tell a different story.

Kindest regards To all,

Jack

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Right in almost every point...
Jul 13 2008,09:28 AM

... anyhow my next purchase will have to wait for a while, for me to absorb the hit from the last one... I will welcome any info and photos and we will see...
Best to you Jack and all the others fiends..
Tassos

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