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I understand. However, in luxury and Haute Degamme...
Apr 11, 2008,19:56 PM - (view entire thread)	By: bernard cheong (registered) [DR/GG Moderator] |  PM Posts: 5489

I see the Opus 8 as a failure of HWRT's exec staff, to demonstrate an understanding of their creations and history.

Having a GOOD COMPLEX movt is a part and sometimes only a small part, of the product.

YES. To watch conneussers like us...a movt is a BIG thing..part part of broader vision is the entire product's message.

Which is why...a Cartier or a Panerai with a basic movt suceeds. A NUBEO suceeds. MBF suceeds.

The message in Opus 8 is (to me), a movt housed in a case that does not measure up to Haute horology..it is no doubt an attempt to do a throw back to the 60s...I again say..a throwback to the 60s..I can choose a Mercedes as an example, or I can choose a Toyota Corolla....if I had to choose a Toyota..I would have chosen the 2000 sports Toyota ( seen and driven by Connery in You Only Live Twice).

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 Main Post Post POSITIVE Opus 8 comments  - MTF (registered) on April 11th, 2008-06:43 
 is it a positive comment to say that...  - Ronald Held (registered) on April 11th, 2008-06:56 
 I actually don't mind...  - CL (registered) on April 11th, 2008-08:14 
 LOL, I can't afford it either. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 11th, 2008-08:32 
 I feel a bit the odd man out. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 11th, 2008-08:31 
 By any other name  - MTF (registered) on April 11th, 2008-09:32 
 OK, your points are all well taken. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 11th, 2008-11:15 
 An American analogy  - MTF (registered) on April 11th, 2008-13:35 
 I do understand your point, I'm just not sure I agree with the conclusion. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 11th, 2008-13:54 
 Time will tell  - maxbliss888 (registered) on April 14th, 2008-00:19 
 Not that I like the look of the watch, but is it any worse than the stillborn Opus 3?  - loujo (registered) on April 11th, 2008-10:34 
 So: Is this a positive vote?  - MTF (registered) on April 11th, 2008-13:39 
 It is definitely positive  - loujo (registered) on April 14th, 2008-13:34 
 The reason why I accepted O3 is is the mechanical sophistication  - bernard cheong (registered) on April 11th, 2008-16:42 
 Which is why, if I may, you should at least give O8 a fighting chance. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 11th, 2008-18:25 
 I understand. However, in luxury and Haute Degamme...  - bernard cheong (registered) on April 11th, 2008-19:56 
 I understand your point but I think the notion of a "history" for. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 12th, 2008-07:05 
 only posting cause it was referenced and  - raphmeister (registered) on April 13th, 2008-06:48 
 Raphmeister..thank you. Now, I must show you a NUBEO.  - bernard cheong (registered) on April 13th, 2008-08:47 
 u're most welcome...  - raphmeister (registered) on April 13th, 2008-09:21 
 There you go using the "U" word to describe watches :-)  - mkt33 (registered) on April 11th, 2008-17:16 
 OK, I'll bite, from a purely design and technical standpoint...  - transhi100 (registered) on April 11th, 2008-15:05 
 Having heard both sides' arguments, I now come to a conclusion that...  - ling5hk (registered) on April 12th, 2008-07:10 
 So - you like this watch but at $35k price?  - MTF (registered) on April 12th, 2008-09:11 
 MTF, I don't particularly like or hate this watch.  - ling5hk (registered) on April 12th, 2008-16:31 
 I agree - wait and see...... but for now  - MTF (registered) on April 13th, 2008-00:20 
 thanks for the thought provoking discussion, guys  - damien (registered) on April 13th, 2008-08:38 
 Warhol..and I own ONE of his iconic works..so i speak from a "position"  - bernard cheong (registered) on April 13th, 2008-08:54 
 Bernard, show me, please. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 13th, 2008-12:45 
 Don't fret..It is my personal taste. No dogma or lecture room facts here.  - bernard cheong (registered) on April 13th, 2008-15:32 
 MTF, do you believe in miracles? LOL [nt]  - amanico (registered) on April 13th, 2008-02:08 
 Just being fair asking for positive comments......(nt)  - MTF (registered) on April 14th, 2008-09:23 
 THANK YOU !! I LOVE SO MUCH TO GENERATE DEBATE  - blanz161 (registered) on April 17th, 2008-00:46 
 I mightn’t love it, but I am glad it was created  - AndrewD (registered) on April 17th, 2008-06:54 
 Dear M. Garinaud, it is very kind of you to share your feelings. . .  - Jack Forster (registered) on April 19th, 2008-10:14 
 Melvyn, I like the watch so much that....  - Horolographer (registered) on April 26th, 2008-01:58