Paul K
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Beautiful watch, but actually
the idea of operating the crono this way is very old, it was originally invented in the 1950's:
and actually produced by a firm called Charles Nicolet:
the base movement was the then very common Landeron 51
The COS is obviously much better engineered and the system itself is very clever and a bit different, but In a German magazine report, Habring makes no secret of the fact that the Nicolet patent inspired him; in the same report it is also said that the operation seems smoother, the sytem eleminates the initial "jump" when starting the chono. Back to the question of a unique chronograph; in total contrast to the COS: what about a seperate pusher for start, stop and reset: a vintage 3-pusher chrono:
The movement is a Landeron 47, I think the 3 pushers are unique to this caliber? This message has been edited by Paul K on 2009-06-11 00:35:09 This message has been edited by Paul K on 2009-06-11 00:35:57
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Any other unique Chronograph you know of ?
In case some of you may ask, why is this post not in the AHCI fora ... The subject / question is about unique chronograph. I would like to ask if anyone has seen any unique chronograph. For me this piece is unconventional and unique ..... Was browsing aro...
What about the JLC Amvox II chronos?
Starting, stopping, and resetting the chrono functions using the sapphire crystal at the 12 and 6 o'clock is unique, right? Thanks for the gorgeous pics of the Habring2 COS. You should share them with Maria and Richard. They would love them. The galvanic ...
Because you mentioned ...
Habring a few days and coincidentally 2 blue dials just came out, so I posted these pics. Yes, the JLC Amvox II Chrono is innovative too. When is your piece of Habring reaching you? Waiting to see your configuration you ordered Kong
Here's a picture of my watch!
Of course, my photo is not as good as yours! The watch has a silver galvanic dial, rhodiated hour/minute hands, and blued second hand. Cheers, Daos...
:-) LOL! Thanks, Nicolas!
Which team are you rooting for? One of the Aston teams is car 007. How can I cheer for anyone else? Daos Nobody does it better -- except 60s era Sean Connery! (courtesy Wicked Local) This message has been edited by dxboon on 2009-06-11 22:39:23...
I think the use of crown turning instead of pusher
to activate / reset a chrono is just gimmick only.use of pusher should give better reaction time and "feel".
I agree with you and …
... I wonder how easy the maneuver is to perform with a watch on the wrist compared to in your hand. Andrew
Strapped on and tried....
Start & Stop no issue, easy. To reset may need a bit of getting use to it. Kong
Agreed with you about the reaction time part, less or no lag with pushers....
if it was thought out long ago, there should be a reason??
Beautiful watch, but actually
the idea of operating the crono this way is very old, it was originally invented in the 1950's: and actually produced by a firm called Charles Nicolet: the base movement was the then very common Landeron 51 The COS is obviously much better engineered and ...
Thanks Paul, very interesting historical background…
I always assumed two-button chronographs were easier to engineer than either monopushers or three-button versions. I wonder if that is true. Monopushers are certainly very elegant in appearance and a pleasure to use. Thanks again. Andrew
History would indicate
that single buttons are easier to design and manufacture. They came first, though I don't have the dates at hand, and all of the "cheap" chronograph pocket watches I have seen from the eartly 20th century are monopoussoir, even the split second ones! The ...
not an evolutionairy dead-end
this 3-pusher actually marked the birth of a whole new species: the cam-operated (ie no column wheel) chronograph! The Landeron 47 was designed in 1939 and was the very first cam-operated (ie no column wheel) chronograph, to make "additional timing" possi...
Landeron 47
A watchmaker told me that the chronograph activation of the Landeron 47 is a nightmare to adjust and that it doesn't stay adjusted for long. It's the only 3-button I know of. nick
Thanks Paul K for the information. Do you know if there was
reason/s to have similar COS chronograph in 1950's? There should be some uses. Yes, not seen 3-button chrono before. Thanks for telling. Kong
Not sure,
in the patent click here no claims on any advantages of this invention are made, however it is mentioned, that this construction also could be used for correcting the day/date on calender watches. I can only assume that the main objective then also was to...
Just guessing ...
seemed to me the chronograph was mainly created to be a telemeter to estimate the artillery projectile during war. Logical it could be proposed to counter watertightness or even pushers jamming. However, for more critical timing, actuating pushers are sti...
a very nice watch
but if you allow me ... I expected a much nicer movement .. this one is imo ugly
The blue version is beautiful.
But I'm not convinced that the crown system is the most accurate one. I have the feeling that we can't start to measure the time at exactly the moment we want to start.... even if, of course, it's an impressive work ! Thanks a lot for the pics and video !...
surely due to human reaction times there is a delay in every chrono operation
i may be totally wrong, but i would think that it it takes time to press a chrono pusher so there is a delay in every chrono. i've not worn the Habring2, but i cant see that the 'delay' would be any more that with a standard chrono. it could even be less....
what about Nicolas Rieussec?
How does he fit into the history of the chronograph? This message has been edited by Bruce Banner on 2009-06-13 17:48:17
